morphine withdrawal

[FlyingDozerParticipant Posts: 2]

Hi All, I’ve researched and read around the forums looking for threads about kicking morphine. Taper plans, what to expect – is it even that big a deal? I’m surprised there are no easily accessible threads (that I could find at least) regarding this. Can someone point me to a thread that covers some of this info – or should I have just begun a new one (like I just did;)? My wife and I are prepared to quit – and are going to start tapering later this evening. We have been taking anywhere from 5-10 tabs a day for probably 2 years now (mostly at night/after work and throughout the day). Any info/help would be greatly appreciated… Thanks!

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[FlyingDozerParticipant Posts: 2]

I agree 100% that I created those accts but never tried to encourage to buy from raphael or post his list here. regarding my morphine consumption I am writing down details month by month I think that I should also mention that we all take Kratom daily (which we used to effectively kick opiates years ago). We are down on our Kratom intake to about 30% twice daily – but it’s an everyday struggle… We also take benzo’s and other pain meds, – but we do have plenty of them available. I just didn’t think creating 4-5accts was that big of a deal but I do realize that my actions were wrong.

[steffvenParticipant Posts: 14]

I’m interested with this topic too. I heard that morphine dependence could have significant impact on the patient’s mental condition while withdrawal could lead to severe muscle or bone pains.

[benarateParticipant Posts: 14]

If I were you, I would look towards discontinuing one drug at a time, and use just 1 or 2 drugs at proper doses. There are too many factors when certain drugs are involved, It could even be the Kratom that sets off the other drugs. Kratom is an unknown percentage. That is what i’d personally be looking to get off first. You don’t know the power, the dose to take, the exact alkaloids in your product, or whether it’s cut with something or not. Once you’re done with Kratom, perhaps ms contin should be alright then. I don’t see any rush, but it would be better if benzodiazepines involved on a frequent, low-dose basis. Once Once kratom are gone, you can use benzos and pain medications as needed as before. Stay safe.

[cherryxParticipant Posts: 35]

Well – I’d agree to most of those statements, except for I have been on Kratom for about 5+ years (or so) and been on morphine for 1.5-2 years. From what I understand, Kratom is mainly a long-acting opiate agonist. So time-wise, we’ve been roughly twice as long on the Kratom as the morphine (maybe more). We had never had a single problem with Kratom. The problems all began when we started taking the morphine (like the same day – maybe a week). Besides, I just feel (in my gut), that all (or most) of the problems are from the morphine. I do definitely agree with the one drug at a time philosophy and the polymorphic variables. I just really think it should be the morphine first, in this case. Can you see where I’m coming from on this – or does this make any more sense to you? Do you think I’m totally off-base? Thanks for humoring me on what has turned into a rather interesting thread. Thanks – and Good Luck!

[chell55Participant Posts: 27]

I can definitely see where you’re coming from, and if you’re determined, go for something like oxycodone to supplement the kratom first. All you need to try to do is keep the Kratom exactly the same, in the batch you’re using, its quality, amount, alkaloid ratio and whatever else. Also keep the benzo use out of the picture; you shouldn’t need it now. You could well be correct about the problems emanating from the morphine. 2 years versus 4 years isn’t really the issue, but getting off the M can certainly be the priority. If you take them all at night, it may be worth spreading them out through the day as well (driving permitting) so that your levels aren’t jumping up and down. This should make benzo use unnecessary, as the metabolites will have an anxiolytic effect. the number of people on M is huge considering that morphine is the standard part of Europe, standard in terms of use for back pain, fibromyalgia, and a variety of other conditions in the USA. Best of luck, and please do keep us informed of how it goes. You could change many lives in the process,

[Ocean ViewParticipant Posts: 26]

thanks for the info guys, and don’t worry about the morphine side effects just keep the doses low (max 150mg/day). I’ve got enough of that stuff laying around to kill an entire farm;) Will power/mind over matter! I’m choosing to take it – it’s not holding me, hostage – so far at least;)

[codoxycowParticipant Posts: 16]

What kind of schedule are you thinking about tapering off of the met? Replacing this stuff seems to me to be a big step backward in your effort to be clean as soon as possible.

[djrickParticipant Posts: 8]

I wish you luck Flyingdozer but think that morphine and methadone may be the biggest issues you have. I would stop morphine before anything else because it’s probably the hardest of the lot to quit.

[CarterParticipant Posts: 39]

Morphine is no walk in the park ,I can tell you that much:)

[Watershed65Participant Posts: 63]

Taper slow if necessary and you’ll be fine

[SupremeLeaderParticipant Posts: 6]

@djrick is right that methadone is the big issue. Use it wisely, be wise and get yourself on the right track. Good luck.

[DrugMasterParticipant Posts: 32]

@flyingdozer I believe you are justifying your morphine use and not really gaining much benefit from tapering. As posted in the other thread, your wife will be fine & now that she has switched over from Kratom to morphine, you are going to have to stick to a very strict schedule to get off of 150mg-300mg of morphine/day. Not an easy task. I have no idea what the actual equipotency comparison is between morphine and Kratom. It appears to be complete guesswork to me but getting through that kind of withdrawal takes determination and fury 4sure. I think your focus should just be on a morphine taper without complicating the situation with other drugs in an attempt to somehow dozer your way through the withdrawals. You are going to have withdrawals in any case. Just focus and get over with the damn thing

[cpa-hydro-marketParticipant Posts: 33]

I’m curious: How many mg’s of Morphine were you taking? I am not sure how much would be the equivalent of 120mg methadone. Anyway, good luck.

[barkingmadParticipant Posts: 11]

I think it is very useful that you have included Kratom in this discussion. While currently legal, this stuff sure sounds like an issue to me when it comes to substance problems.

[Ocean ViewParticipant Posts: 26]

morphine is a hard one for me. I love them….. Going through morphine withdrawal sucks. I get chest pains, at least that’s what they feel like. I think it’s because my muscles are so relaxed, and then BOOM takes that away my body doesn’t know what to do. And they also help me sleep, so the first few nights I don’t have them, I can’t sleep either. All of the symptoms are gone within 4 days though, I have been through worse.

[fish farmerParticipant Posts: 15]

OK – well we’re back to our regular old Kratom or cannabis (actually high-quality flowers, not the low-quality pesticide-infested thing you buy on the street, this can be used for training, in a cup of tea. about 30% less per day, each)I’ve cut morphine intake from 6-10 a night each, to 4-5 a night each – so improving slowly but surely. We’ve also backed way off the benzos, though not completely

[abovethelawParticipant Posts: 21]

Not just morphine withdrawal is critical, excess use of any medicine and producing drug dependency is bad for overall health. You should consult with professionals and follow their instructions. Eventually, you both will be ok. Good luck!

[cherrybombParticipant Posts: 27]

As long as you keep heading in the right direction by taking less, you are making progress and should be proud of your efforts. Keep up the good work. Don’t worry about hijacking your own thread. The other meds you take impact your ability to quit morphine – so it is all relevant.

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